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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: mseller on June 22, 2011, 02:29 pm
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Just want to say something about signing for recipient of parcel.
Many couriers require signature from recipient as prove of delivery. Its reasonable to assume that if bank send you tan table or some kind of docs that sender
could somehow verify/confirm did delivery is delivered.
Parcel can contain many products from anonymous sender, gift, prize played on-line, cd marketing form company etc etc.
So nobody, can prove that with signing recipient you know who sender is and what is inside the parcel. Of course, after delivery, you should not open parcel
immediately. Wait some time, min few hrs. Leave closed parcel on desk and go outside, to the shop, to visit a friend, whatever. With that you should find out is really some sting operation active. When you return home, if everything is ok,no police on sight, it should be safe to open a parcel. I can recommend that you can open it outside the house, on some other private property - not public.
Dont take me wrong. I dont recommend anything here. Its just my toughts reagarding signing for a parcel.
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I don't see such a big deal to sign a parcel.
if you live in a shared house and there are lots of people cohabit with you, or lived before,
often you sign any parcel just to get it.
Who gets first to the door to answer mailman's bell, he signs anything.
It's just a harmless routine, it does not mean anything IMHO...
In the court of law, your signature means nothing on the delivery receipt
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around here you can write "Not Valid" as the signature and they delivery guy will still hand the package over. you just have to be "around" when the package is delivered, that's not always easy.
However, I personally wouldn't ever order to a location where I had any relations to or had to sign.
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I assume its like signing a receipt when using a credit card, you can write "I'm a thief, this is a stolen card" and it will still get accepted. It just marks someone has physically received it, and that it wasnt jacked off your doorstep. Still though, why is opening an illega package a sign of guilt anymore than receiving one?
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When opening a package shows that recipient now know what is inside and no matter how much time actually pass by between delivery and opening.
When package is still not open, there is no evidence to prove that recipient rally know what is inside.
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I never get that either.. People keep trying to give advise around opening the package, or waiting to open the package until a warrant would have expired, or whatever.. Just cause I open something doesn't mean I like, approve of, or requested the contents. I'm not saying that there is no legitimacy to the claim, but it certainly makes no sense to me.
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Opening mail that is not addressed to you is also a crime though, you shouldnt be doing it whatever it is you are being sent.
If you follow the silk road guide lines and have it delivered under fake name, you really should write "not this address" on the box and wait a while in case the the po po is waiting outside for you to get stuck in. Because if they do bust the door down they will ask why you opened it if it wasn't addressed to you, and that is enough to incriminate you. (it means you are expecting it)
You may not approve of it, but possession is still illegal, once you have opened it you are possessing it, or you would call the police and have them come and destroy it. (yeah right lol)
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I'd assume you are having a package delivered under a fake name as no one would use their real name right?? If that is the case signing for it with another fake name is fine and as others have said, you can mark it return to sender and leave it for a couple of hours. Hell go out with a similar looking package or bag and see if anyone follows you or tries to intercept you for a search.
If the package is not open and does not have your name on it, if you are picked up you have plausible deniability.
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Not A Good Idea. :|
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Not A Good Idea. :|
What my idea or the thread in general. Obviously we have shipping guides which state not to send via shipping companies.